Gellert vs Geto

 

 

Gellert Grindelwald vs Suguru Geto

Before we Start

For this I will be using all Canon sources so Movies and Novel for Gellert and Anime and Manga for Geto

Background

Suguru Geto

"All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man to lunacy.” While that quote from the Clown Prince of Crime could be proven true and false in the world of DC, ironically, that quote perfectly summarized the tragic fate of the cursed spirit manipulator and Jujutsu sorcerer, Sugero Geto. While we didn’t know much of Geto’s childhood, we do know that he lived in a village with his family, and eventually became a Jujutsu Sorcerer, someone who protects people from curses with the help of cursed energy and cursed techniques. There, he was able to become best friends with Satoru Gojo, with the two of them becoming the strongest sorcerers of the generation. Everything was going great, until they had a mission to protect the Star Plasma vessel, Riko Amanai, and bring her to Tengen. When they nearly completed the mission, they were ambushed by the Sorcerer Killer, Toji Fushiguro, who beat up Geto, nearly killed Gojo, and killed Riko. When Toji defeated Geto, he mocked him by saying that he got beaten by a “monkey” that didn’t have cursed energy. After Gojo awakened and killed Toji, things all went downhill from there for Geto. He was no longer the strongest alongside Gojo, he was starting to see less worth of protecting people who aren’t aware of sorcerers’ existence, and one day, when he went back to his village to eliminate a curse, he found two young girls who were being abused by some people in the village, with the fear starting to make another curse. That moment, Geto had an epiphany. People would never stop making curses due to their lack of knowledge about them, and with cursed sorcerers having to fight for and die for those people, those monkeys, only for them to just make more curses. It would just lead into a never ending battle. With this, Geto’s objective was clear: Kill every monkey and only leave jujutsu sorcers alive.

He started this objective by killing his entire village, and after parting ways with Gojo, he took control of an organization and laid in wait. Many years later, when Gojo and Geto are now adults, Yuta Okkotsu has started to become a Jujutsu sorcerer, with Geto preparing to make his move. Throughout the years, Geto was collecting thousands of curses in order to prepare for war, and his plan? Kill Yuta in order to get his curse, Rika Orimoto, and increase the chances of victory. While Geto was able to defeat Panda, Maki and Inumaki, and was able to fight Yuta and Rika at the same time, in the climactic clash between Yuta and Rika’s love and Geto’s drive to win, Geto lost and was gravely wounded as a result. His executioner was none other than Gojo himself, with the two of them having a heart to heart before Gojo killed him, ending his life, but not his legacy. After Geto’s death, his family continued on with his legacy, and a certain someone used Geto’s body in order to achieve their goals. From someone who wanted to protect the weak into killing them, while still genuinely believing that he was doing the right thing, Sugero Geto was cursed, and that curse continued on, even after his demise.

Gellert Grindelwald

From a young age, Grindelwald was a prodigy. At Durmstrang Institute, he stood out, not for kindness or discipline, but for brilliance in the Dark Arts. He wasn’t afraid of dangerous magic; he embraced it. His hunger for knowledge and experimentation pushed him too far, and he was expelled. But Grindelwald didn’t see it as a loss. He saw it as freedom. In his mind, he had already glimpsed the truth: Wizards were superior, and one day, they would rule the world.

That vision sharpened when he went to Godric’s Hollow and met a kindred spirit Albus Dumbledore. The two bonded instantly, dreaming of a future where wizards no longer lived in secrecy, but instead ruled over Muggles “for the greater good.” With Dumbledore, Grindelwald didn’t just have a friend he had a partner who matched his genius. For a moment, everything seemed possible.

But it all came crashing down. Their plans, their ideals, and their closeness ended in a three-way duel that left Dumbledore’s sister Ariana dead. The tragedy tore them apart. Grindelwald fled, and from that day, the two men stood on opposite sides of history.

Alone, Grindelwald dedicated himself fully to his vision. He sought the Deathly Hallows, convinced they were the key to reshaping the world. He succeeded in claiming the Elder Wand, the most powerful wand in existence. With it, he began building his army. Unlike Voldemort, who ruled through fear alone, Grindelwald was far more dangerous—he inspired. He convinced wizards that his dream of domination wasn’t evil, but necessary. And many followed him willingly.

By the 1920s and 30s, his power was unmatched. He created his stronghold, Nurmengard, and gathered curses and followers alike, preparing for the day he would remake the world. For him, it was simple: Wizards would rule, Muggles would serve, and this would save everyone “for the greater good.”

But his rise couldn’t last forever. In 1945, his past caught up to him. The man who had once been his closest friend Albus Dumbledore stood against him. Their battle became legend, the ultimate clash of equals. Grindelwald lost, and Dumbledore locked him away in Nurmengard, the very prison he had built for others.

Years later, when Voldemort came searching for the Elder Wand, Grindelwald faced him unafraid. Even stripped of power, he refused to give up the secret. And in that moment, the world saw not a coward, but a man defiant to the end.

From a boy who dreamed of changing the world to the Dark Lord who nearly did, Grindelwald’s story is one of brilliance twisted into tyranny. He truly believed he was saving the world but his “greater good” left nothing but ruin.

Equipment

Geto

Playful Cloud

Playful Cloud or (遊ゆう雲うん Yū-un) is a Special Grade Cursed Weapon which he had used against Yuta after absorbing Toji's Inventory and it was later taken by Gojo and later handed back to the Zenin Clan as it belonged to Toji a member of the Clan. It three wooden Staff combined into one with Chains, The Weapons instead of using Cursed Energy which most Cursed weapons do this one utilizes the wielders strength however just because it uses Physical strength doesn't mean that it doesn't use any Cursed Energy any Cursed Energy that is used will be converted into Physical Strength.

Gellert

Gellerts Wand

Percival Graves's wand

Elder Wand

The Elder wand is the most powerfull Wand in history being capable of casting spells more powerful than magically possible and repairing stuff which was stated to be "damaged beyond magical repair".

Hax and Abilities

Cursed Energy

Cursed Energy or 呪じゅ力りょく Juryoku are the Negative emotions flowing through someone which can be harnested into energy to have many abilities from seing Invisible curses, sticking to surfaces, able to analyze their enemies attacks and protect the Soul subconsciously. There are a few other Abilities it can grant so here is a list of them.

• Immortality: Sorcerers can come back as vengeful Spritis as long as they weren't Jujutsu Sorcery

• Aura

• Rage Power/ Empowerment: Sorcerers can increase their Physical power through Negative Emotions

• Analytical Prediction: Like mentioned above, Sorcerers can anylze their opponents attack through their Cursed Energy Flow

• Accelerated Development: Sorcerers can improve when there are consequences to suffer

• Limited Biological Manipulation and Power Nullification: Sorcerers bodies are like Domains, making it impossible to manifest anything in their bodies

Curses

Curses or 呪のろい Noroi are people born from stuff from Negative emotions such as Fear, Hate , Sadness and Envy. Curses also posses Cursed Energy and have their own Abilities, due to them being born/created of Emotions this means that their abilities are tied to set fear for example Jogo is born of the fear of Volcanoes or Volcanic disasters so his abilities are Fire/Volcanic. It’s also important to mention that curses are invisible to the naked human eye outside of a life and death scenario unless you either have cursed energy or something similar enough to sense/see curses.

Cursed Spirit Manipulation

Geto’s Cursed Technique, Cursed Spirit Manipulation allows him to control any curses he injests, which gives him complete dominance over the cursed spirit. While he would normally have to defeat the curse in order to do this, depending on the curse grade level, he can just skip the fighting process and absorb it off rip, and he can absorb the curses from dead people, as he planned to do it after killing Yuta. There’s no limit to how many curses he can absorb, and he can use some cursed energy to make the cursed spirits stronger, although if he were to die, all the cursed spirits would be unleashed. While he has way too many curses to count, we will mention some notable cursed spirits he has.

Rainbow Dragon

One of Geto’s cursed spirits, the Rainbow Dragon was known for having the toughest hide out of his cursed spirits, and it was fast enough to keep pace with an airplane. With him summoning it to fight Toji, it was one of his strongest cursed spirits during his teenage years, and would definitely cause issues for Geto’s opponents unless your name is Toji.

Slit Mouthed Woman

Another of Geto’s cursed spirits used as a teenager, this curse essentially puts you in a domain in which neither side can attack unless you answer its question, and it was able to inflict a small cut on Toji, which considering how strong he is, is VERY impressive.

Flying Curse

It’s a curse Geto uses in order to fly around for easy transportation.

Zumba Curse

A curse used in JJK 0, when the curse crosses its fingers, a pillar of light would appear where the person was standing on, inflicting damage onto anyone who doesn’t get out of the way in time.

Maximum Uzumaki

Geto’s Maximum Technique in which he combines all the cursed spirits into a massive swirl of cursed energy, which would destroy anything it's launched at. However, the main drawbacks is that it gets rid of the versatility of Cursed Spirit Manipulation and that it seems to have a charge up time. The technique can also extract cursed techniques of cursed spirits grade one or higher, although Geto doesn’t seem to know it if Kenjaku originally thought it was worthless (mostly mentioned the technique extraction for completionist’s sake).

Gellert

Spells

Like every Wizard in the Wizarding World Gellert can utilize Spells /Charms and Magic, which he has a list of.

• Levitation Charm/Wingardium Leviosa: Allows wizards to levitate objects

• Softening Charm: Turns anything into Rubber

• Fire Making Spell: Makes Fire

• Knockback Jinx: Same thing as Knockback II

• Severing Charm: Cuts object

• Mending Charm: Repairs Object

• Ice Jinx: creates a Block of Ice

• Skurge Charm: removes Ectoplasm and can frighten Ghost

• Dancing Feet Spells: Same thing as Boogie Bombs

• Disarming Charm: Disarms anyone hit with it

• Memory Charm: makes you forget things user can make you forget specific things (Basically Dementia)

• Tickling Charm: Tickles anyone hit by it which makes them burst out in laughter weakening them

• Freezing Spell: Freezes the enemy in Places

• Engorment Spell: Causes the enemy to swell/Grow, Counter to Shrinking

• Shrinking Charm: Shrinks objects or anything it hits

• Generall Counter Spell: Undoes effect such as Jinxes, Curses and Hexes

• Slowing Charm: Slow down the velocity of an Object

• Freezing Spell: Freezes Objects

• Seize and Pull Charm: Creates a cord which the user can use the pull stuff towards him

• Full Body Bind Curse: Paralyses anyone hit with it

• Banishing Charm: can teleport the people or objects far away from the caster, Opposite of Accio

• Accio/Summoning Charm: Pulls objects and enemies towards the caster

• Lumos Maxima: Creates a Bright Light at the tip of the Wand

• Depulso/Banishing Charm: can send people flying, opposite of Accio

• Bombardment/Bombardo: A charm which send an explosion out

• Reducto/Reductor Curse: Destroy any object which comes into contact

• Silencing Charm: Mutes anyone hit with

• Deletrius/Eradication Spell: Incinerates anything

• Locomotor Mortis/Leg Locker Curse: binds the legs of an enemy together

• Disillusionment Charm: Makes you camouflage

• Descending Charm: causes enemies to Fall

• Confundo/Confundus Charm: Confuses/misdirects anyone hit by it

• Agamuenti/Water Making Spell: creates a Jetstream of Water

• Drought Charm: causes Water to dry up

• Gouging Spell: used to Gouge out specific Material

• Blue Sparks: creates Blue Sparks which can blind someone if they created multiple

• Extinguishing Spell: Extinguishes fire

• Killing Curse/Avada Kedavra: Causes a Painless Death to anyone hit by it

• Protego: Creates a Forcefield which protects the Caster

• Lightning Spell: A Dark Magic spell which can fires out Blue Lightning which makes anyone hit by it will experience extreme Pain

• Protego Diabolica: creates Flames which if touched disintegrates anyone

Weaknesses

Geto

Despite all of his accomplishments and being a special grade sorcerer, Geto still has his weaknesses. The time it takes for him to use Maximum Uzumaki is very long, not to mention Maximum Uzumaki would get rid of the versatility of Cursed Spirit Manipulation since it would combine ALL the spirits into one big attack. He also doesn’t possess unlimited cursed energy, and would eventually run out of it. He also underestimates non sorcerers, which could cause problems depending on the scenario.

Gellert

Despite Gellert overwhelming firepower and cunning he’s not invincible, and has his weaknesses. He underestimates his enemies which can lead to his defeat not to mention he can’t perform a lot of his abilities without his wand. Whilst he can perform some abilities without them, without the wand his options would be limited in comparison. 

Feats and Accomplishments

Geto

• Collected thousands of curses

• Held his own against Yuta and Rika

• Initiated the Night Parade of a Thousand Demons

• Became a monkey hater Frieza would be proud of

Strength

• Geto burned down a Forest (21.98 Tons of TNT)

• Maximum Uzumaki created a giant Crater (6.18 - 743 Kilotons of TNT)

• Stronger than Characters such as Nanami,Todo and Itadori due to him being a Grade 1 Sorcerer

• Nanami can create (0.01 - 375.2 Tons of TNT)

• Yuji dents a shelter roof (3.81 Megajoules)

Speed

• Dodges piercing Blood (Mach 4 - 7)

• Blocks bullets (Mach 0.16 - 0.28)

• Superior then Uraume, who could block Piercing Blood (Mach 1.91 - 3.5)

• Should scale to sorcerers like Yuji and Todo, who can use Black Flash within a microsecond (Mach 284.4-Mach 939.9) 

Durability

• Survived a Kick from Toji

• Endured a Black Flash from Yuta

• Kenjaku (who’s using Geto’s body) survived the beginning of Yuki’s black hole, although he did need to activate the anti gravity technique to survive the rest of it (676.211 Megatons) 

Gellert

Accomplishments

• Nearly destroyed Paris

• Caused the first wizarding war

• Stalemate dumbledore

• Took credence and helped him control and master his power

• Nearly control the political world of wizards of Supreme Mugwump of the ICW

• Was so powerful that the only dark wizard stronger than him is voldemort

• Brilliant mind is only matched by his lover dumbledore

Strength

• Placed Banners all around Paris (8.8 - 35 Tons of TNT)

• His fire was gonna burn down Paris (2.71 - 23 Tons of TNT)

• Is on Par Dumbledore

• Dumbledore creates a Pocket Dimension as big as Berlin (108 Megatons of TNT)

• Dumbledore created fog across London (4.09 Kilotons of TNT) (Debatable)

Speed

• Blocks a Spell (0.76c)

• Flies a Carriage to a Thunderstorm (Mach 7 - 14)

• Point Blank blocks a spell (0.39c)

• Comparable to other WIzard such as Harry and Scamander

• Harry dodges Accio (4.28c)

• Scamander also dodges Accio (1.04c)

Durability

• Comparable to Harry

• who survived falling of a Bike (237 Kilojoules)

Art

Made by Mush-e-peas

Made by Mush-e-peas

Verdict

Stats

Strength wise Geto can reach Large Town Level through Maximum Uzumaki creating a giant Crater reaching 743 Kilotons of TNT and scaling to Kenjaku (which considering that Gojo’s SIX EYES said that Geto and Kenjaku ARE THE SAME, should be fine) would have him survive the initial black hole, placing him at 676.211 Megatons whilst Gellert can match Dumbledore who can create fog across London which gets to 4 Kilotons of TNT. Even taking higher ends Geto is still 6 times stronger.

Speed is a different case. Using Kenjaku’s feats as a reference for speed, Geto should be able to to dodge or scale to people who can dodge Piercing Blood, which reaches Mach 4-7 and should be comparable to sorcerers who can use Black Flash, placing him at Mach 939, while Gellert has multiple light speed feats, from 0.39c-4.28c. While there are some lightspeed stuff in JJK, it’s unlikely for Geto to scale to any of it, so Gellert should have the massive speed edge.

Geto takes strength while Gellert takes speed.

Abilities

Geto has a few tricks up his sleeves flight, Summoning,Attack Reflection and other whilst Gellert also has a lot of Abilities such as Insta Killing Geto, Immobilizing him, Make Geto forget certain things and a lot more. However, while Gellert has more abilities on paper, Geto’s one main ability gives him the numbers advantage, with some of said curses having unique abilities of their own, and with the fact that Geto has THOUSANDS of curses, he could pretty easily overwhelm Gellert if given the chance, although the curse’s invisible nature won’t mean anything due to life and death scenarios having regular people see curses and this being… a fight to the death. With Gellert having more abilities but Geto having the numbers to make up for it, it’s easier to have abilities be a tie.

Tertiary Factors

Both are very experienced sorcerers and Wizards respectfully however Grindelwald has been at it for way longer as he started as a Teenager whilst Geto started is only in his 20’s.

Meaning that Experience goes to Gellert

Gellert would also get Stamina as he has shown fighting Dumbledore for 3 Hours whilst Geto has fought for way less time.

Stamina goes to Gellert

Geto

• + Stronger and more durable…
• + Could overwhelm Gellert with curses if given the chance
• + Would absolutely DOMINATE in close ranged combat
• - … but Killing Curse can ignore it
• - Way slower
• - Less experienced
• - Less stamina
• - Less versatility in terms of abilities
• - Maximum Uzumaki would leave him vulnerable

Gellert

• + Faster
• + Killing Curse can ignore power gap
• + More experienced
• + More stamina
• + More versatility in terms of abilities
• + Can take advantage of Maximum Uzumaki
• - Weaker
• - Would get overwhelmed by curses if he doesn’t end the fight quickly
• - Would get ANNIHILATED in close range combat

Verdict

With everything labeled out, both have specific wincons. Geto’s wincons are to either get in close and land one hit with Playful Cloud or have his MASSIVE curse army jump and overwhelm Gellert. Meanwhile, Gellert’s main win con is to quickly land Avada Kedabra on Geto while making sure to NOT hit any of his cursed spirits. Fortunately for Gellert, his massive speed edge and the fact that he’d go for the Killing Curse on anyone NOT NAMED DUMBLEDORE means he’d just blitz Geto and insta kill him before Geto can do anything in retaliation. Looks like Geto ended up getting cursed once again, this time to death.

The Winner is Gellert Grindelwald

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